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3rd Level FOREX LTD
Do you know another NDD/STP/ECN Forex broker? Please suggest by
adding a comment below.
Forex brokers: ECN vs STP vs NDD vs DD
DD — Dealing
Desk — Forex brokers that operate (route orders) through the Dealing Desk and quote fixed spreads. A dealing desk broker
makes money via spreads and by trading against its clients. A Dealing Desk Forex broker is called a Market Maker - they literally
"make the market" for traders: when traders want to sell, they buy from them, when traders want to buy, they sell to them,
e.g. they will always take the opposite side of the trade and in this way "create the market". A trader doesn't see the real
market quotes, which allows Dealing Desk brokers (Market Makers) manipulate with their quotes where they need to in order
to fill the client.
NDD — No
Dealing Desk — NDD Forex brokers provide access to the interbank market without passing orders trough the dealing desk.
With true No Dealing Desk brokers there are no re-quotes on orders and no additional pausing during order confirmation. This,
in particular, allows trading during news times with no restrictions on trading. An NDD broker can either charge commission
for trading or choose to increase the spread and make Forex trading commission free. No Dealing Desk brokers are either
STP or ECN+STP.
STP — Straight
Through Processing — STP Forex brokers send orders directly from clients to the liquidity providers - banks, which trade
on the Intebank. Sometimes STP brokers have just one liquidity provider, other times several. The more there are banks and
liquidity in the system, the better the fills for the clients. The fact that traders have access to the true market and
can execute trades immediately without dealer intervention is what makes the platform STP.
ECN — Electronic
Communications Network — ECN Forex brokers additionally allow clients' orders to interact with other clients' orders.
ECN Forex broker provides a marketplace where all its participants (banks, market makers and individual traders) trade against
each other by sending competing bids and offers into the system. Participants interact inside the system and get the best
offers for their trades available at that time. All trading orders are matched between counter parties in real time. A small
trading fee - commission - is always applied. Sometimes STP brokers are discussed as if they were ECN brokers. To be a
true ECN, a broker must display the Depth of the Market (DOM) in a data window, let clients show their own order size in the
system and allow other clients to hit those orders. With ECN broker traders can see where the liquidity is and execute trades.
Broker types and revenues: fixed vs variable spreads vs commission
ECN Forex brokers
always have variable spreads. Only ECN brokers charge commission for trading Forex. Commission is the only revenue/profit
an ECN broker receives. ECN brokers are not making money on bid/ask (spread) difference.
An STP Forex
broker is compensated through the spread (spread markups - to be explained in details below).
STP brokers have a choice of offering variable or fixed spreads. STP brokers route all trading orders to
the liquidity providers - banks. These brokers, as intermediaries between their clients and banks, receive prices (spreads)
posted by the banks on the Interbank market. Most banks, in fact, offer fixed spreads. An STP broker therefore has 2 options: 1.
Let spreads be fixed. 2. Leave the spread at 0 and let the system take the best bid and ask from the number of banks (the
more the better) and in this way provide variable spreads. How an STP broker earns its money? Since STP brokers (as well
as ECN) don't trade against their clients, they add own small markups to the spread quote. This is done by adding a pip (or
half a pip, or any other amount) to the best bid and subtracting a pip at the best ask of its liquidity provider. All client
orders are directly routed to the liquidity providers at original spread quoted by those providers while an STP broker earns
its money from own markups.
Forex market
maker - a broker with a dealing desk earns money on bid/ask difference as well as when a client loses a trade, since market
makers are trading against their clients by hedging - entering in an opposite trade.
Conclusion:
ECN brokers are the purest breed among all Forex dealers. They don't profit on spread difference. Their
only profit comes from commission. ECN brokers are interested in their clients to be winning, otherwise there will be no commission
to earn.
STP brokers make money on spreads, thus even though they do not have a physical dealing desk to monitor
and counter-trade client orders, they are still able to set their own price - the spread markup - for routing trading orders
to liquidity providers and providing their clients with advanced trading services, lower account deposits, faster execution
and anonymous trading environment with no dealing desk. STP brokers are also interested to see their clients trading profitable,
so that a broker can continue earning on spreads.
Market makers make money on spreads and by hedging against their clients. However, if a client becomes
"too" profitable, it can directly "upset" the broker. While this may be tolerated and professionally managed by a larger reputable
market maker, with a smaller dealer such client will be soon asked to leave.
Benefits of trading with No Dealing Desk brokers
Among the main
reason why traders look for NDD brokers is transparency, better and faster fills and anonymity.
Transparency means that a trader enters a true market instead of the market being artificially created
for him. Better fills are a result of the direct and competitive market bids and offers.
Anonymity means that there is no Dealing Desk watching who has come to the market and is asking for an
order to be filled, instead client orders are executed automatically, immediately through the market network and totally anonymously.
On the opposite side is a Dealing Desk broker, who is able to profile their clients. In the worst case
scenario, such broker can split clients into groups and put less successful ones on auto-execution and trade against them
because on average they will lose, while clients that show signs of successful trading will be put on "slow-down" mode and
can be provided with frequent re-quotes, slippage and/or slower execution especially during fast moving markets while a broker
tries to offset own risks. The transparency of a Dealing Desk broker depends on the rules inside the company.
Forex Brokers aren't bad on general, whether a Dealing or Non-Dealing
Desk, they aren't there to be against any particular trader. They look to make business, not just work for traders in terms
of cooperation in the market environment. Many large Forex brokers who have lots of clients tend to try to help their clients
become profitable as much as they can, but once a trading order is placed, its everyone for themselves.
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Market-makers "make" or set the prices on their systems based on what they think is best for themselves
as the counter-party. This is because every time you sell, they must buy, and when you buy, they must sell to you. This is
why they can give you a fixed spread since they are setting both the bid and the ask price. Many of them will then try to
"hedge" or "cover" your order by passing it on to someone else; however, some may decide to hold your order, and thus trade
against you. This can result in a conflict of interest between the retail trader (you) and the market-maker.
ECNs, on the other hand, pass on prices from several banks and market-makers, as well as from the other
traders in the ECN, and display the best bid/ask prices based on these input. This is why sometimes you can get no spread
on ECNs, especially in very liquid currency pairs. How do ECNs make money then? They do so by charging you a fixed commission
for each transaction.
Here are some of the pros and cons of ECNs and market-makers:
Market-Makers
Pros:
- Usually give free charting software and news feed
- Prices can be "smoother" and less volatile than ECN prices (this
can be a con if you are scalping or trading very short term)
- Often have a more user-friendly trading and analysis interface
Cons:
- They may trade against you. In that case, there will be a conflict
of interest between you and them
- The price they offer you may be worse than what you could get
on an ECN
- It is possible that they may trigger stops or not let your trade
reach your profit target levels by manipulating prices
- During news, there will usually be a large amount of slippage;
their systems may also lock up or not allow order placing during times of high volatility
- Many of them discourage scalping and put scalpers on "manual execution"
which means their orders may not get filled at the price they want
Examples of some market-makers:
http://www.goforex.net/forex-broker-list.htm#MM
ECNs
Pros:
- You can usually get better bid/ask prices since they come from
several sources
- Variable spreads between bid and ask may give no spread or tiny
spreads at times
- If they are a true ECN, they will not be trading against you but
will pass on your orders to a bank or another customer on the other end of the transaction.
- You will be able to offer a price between the bid and ask with
a chance of it getting filled
- If they support Stop-Limit orders, you can prevent slippage during
news by making sure that your order either gets filled at the price you want or not at all
- Prices may be more volatile which will be better for scalping
Cons:
- Many do not offer integrated charting
- Many do not offer integrated news
- Many of the trading platforms are less user-friendly
- Because of variable spreads (between bid and ask,) it may be more
difficult to calculate stop loss and profit target in pips beforehand.
Examples of some ECNs:
http://www.goforex.net/forex-broker-list.htm#ECN
Below is the largest list of Forex brokers who offer mini and micro accounts
under $1000 and mini lot size trading of 10 000 units or less.
Lot size reference:
1 lot = 100k = 100 000 units (standard lot) 0.1 lot = 10k = 10 000 units (mini lot) 0.01
lot = 1k = 1000 units (micro lot)
any amount = no limitation on position sizes
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Forex broker |
Min deposit, ($) |
Min lot size, (lots) |
Max position size, (standard lots) |
Account funding methods |
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10Pips |
$100 |
- |
- |
Wire transfer, Credit card, Moneybookers |
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ACM USA |
$500 |
0.1 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Check, Online Check (ACH), Credit
and Debit card |
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ActivTrades |
€250 |
0.01 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Credit card |
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Admiral Markets |
$1 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, WebMoney |
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AL Trade |
$200 |
0.1 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Credit card, WebMoney, Eurogiro
postal transfer |
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Alma Forex |
$1 |
0.1 cent lot |
5 lots |
Wire transfer, Credit Card, AlertPay, Liberty Reserve,
WebMoney |
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Alpari UK |
$200 |
0.01 |
2 lots. Limits are off for deposits from $500 |
Wire transfer, Check |
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Alpari US |
$1 |
0.01 |
1 lot |
Wire transfer, Check |
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Apex FX Trading |
$500 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer |
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ApexForex |
$500 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, Check, Online check, Credit card |
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Arab Financial
Brokers (K.S.C.C) |
$100 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, Credit card |
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Atlantic FX |
$25 |
0.01 or less |
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Wire transfer, Credit card |
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Ava FX |
$100 |
0.05 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Credit card, PayPal, WebMoney, Moneybookers,
Neteller |
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AVS Carter |
$500 |
0.01 |
100 lots |
Wire transfer, Credit card |
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Azurite Markets |
$1 |
0.1 |
no limit |
Wire transfer |
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BroCo |
$100 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, WebMoney |
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BTrader |
$25 |
|
|
Wire transfer, Credit card, Paypal, Neteller, Moneybookers,
Liberty Reserve |
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CFX - Charter FX |
$500 |
0.1 |
20 lots |
Wire transfer, Credit card, PayPal |
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CG FOREX |
$100 |
0.01 |
100 lots |
Wire transfer, Credit card, Moneybookers |
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City Index Asia |
$250 |
0.01 |
no limit |
Wire transfer |
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CMC Markets |
$200 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, Check, Online check, PayPal, BPS |
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CMS Forex |
$200 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, Check, PayPal, BPS |
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Deltastock |
$100 |
0.01 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Credit card |
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E-Global Trade
& Finance Group |
$1 |
0.0001 |
1 lot |
Wire transfer, Credit card |
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Easy-Forex |
$200 |
0.025 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Credit card, PayPal |
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ECN Market |
$400 |
0.1 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Check |
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Forex broker |
Min deposit, ($) |
Min lot size, (lots) |
Max position size, (standard lots) |
Account funding methods |
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EFX - England Foreign
Exchange |
$500 |
0.01 |
0.1 lot |
Wire transfer, check |
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EMPFX |
$300 |
0.1 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Check, Credit card |
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eToro |
$50 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, Credit card, PayPal, Neteller, Moneybookers,
Western Union, MoneyGram |
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EuroForex |
$200 |
0.1 |
0.5 lots |
Wire transfer |
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FastBrokersFX |
$500 |
0.01 |
100 lots |
Wire transfer, Check, Credit card, PayPal |
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FCMarket |
$500 |
0.1 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Credit card, PayPal, Authorized
Money Exchanger - ProChanger.com (Available for Indonesian only) |
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FIBO Group |
$300 |
0.1 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Credit card |
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FIGfx |
$25 |
|
99 lots |
Wire transfer, Credit card, Webmoney, Liberty Reserve,
Moneybookers, CashU |
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Finexo |
$25 |
0.01 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Credit card, PayPal, Liberty Reserve,
MoneyBookers, Click & Buy, Neteller |
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FinMarket |
$100 |
0.1 |
no limit |
Wire transfer |
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FinOdds |
$1 |
0.1 |
|
|
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Finotec |
$200 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, Credit card |
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Forex Club |
$10 |
0.01 |
1 lot |
Wire transfer, Check, Credit card |
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Forex Day Trading |
$250 |
0.1 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Check |
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Forex Place - 4XP |
$500 |
|
|
Wire transfer, Credit Card, Moneybookers, Liberty
Reserve, Neteller |
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Forex Ukraine |
$200 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, WebMoney or Yandex money payment
system |
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Forex-Metal |
$1 |
0.005 |
no lilmit |
Wire transfer, WebMoney, Liberty Reserve, C-Gold,
Moneybookers, Pecunix |
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FOREX.com |
$250 |
0.1 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Check, eCheck, Credit and Debit
card |
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Forex broker |
Min deposit, ($) |
Min lot size, (lots) |
Max position size, (standard lots) |
Account funding methods |
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Forex4you |
$1 |
0.0001 |
no limit |
Bank wire, Credit card, Debit Card, E-gold, Liberty
Reserve, Webmoney |
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ForexCT |
$100 |
0.025 |
no limit |
Bank wire, Credit card, E-gold |
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ForexYard |
$100 |
0.01 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Credit Card |
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ForexWebTrader |
$25 |
0.01 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Credit Card, Debit Card, e-gold,
e-bullion, PayPal, Liberty Reserve, Moneybookers |
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FX|Clearing |
$1 |
0.01 |
2 lots |
Wire transfer, Credit card, PayPal, Moneybookers
|
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FX Solutions |
$250 |
0.01 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Check, Online check, Credit and
Debit card, PayPal |
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FX Trading |
$500 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer |
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FXA Securities |
$500 |
0.1 |
30 lots |
Wire transfer |
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FXcast |
$10 |
0.01 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Credit card, WebMoney, Libertyreserve,
E-gold, e-bullion, e-dinar, c-gold |
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FXCM Micro |
$25 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, Check, Online check, Credit and
Debit card |
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FXD24 - FX direct
S.A. |
$10 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, Credit card, WebMoney, CG Pay, e-Bullion,
e-dinar, c-gold, Liberty Reserve |
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FXDD |
$250 |
0.01 |
50 lots |
Wire transfer, Check, Credit card, PayPal, BPS |
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FXLite |
$500 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer |
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FXOnline Japan |
$500 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer |
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FXOpen |
$1 |
0.01 |
1 lot |
Wire transfer, WebMoney, Libertyreserve, E-gold,
e-bullion, c-gold, Cash U, AlertPay, Altergold, PerfectMoney |
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FXPrice |
$250 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, Check, Credit card, Paypal |
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FXPro.com |
$500 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, Credit card, PayPal |
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FXTSP |
$300 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, Check, Online check, Credit and
Debit card |
|
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Forex broker |
Min deposit, ($) |
Min lot size, (lots) |
Max position size, (standard lots) |
Account funding methods |
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Gallant FX |
$500 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, Check |
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GFT |
$250 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, Check, Credit card, PayPal |
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GIGFX |
$100 |
0.1 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Credit card |
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Global Clearing
Group |
$500 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, Credit card, Webmoney, AlertPay |
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Go Markets |
$1 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, Credit card, BPAY |
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GTL Trading |
$500 |
0.1 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Check |
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HalifaxOnline |
$1 |
0.05 |
|
Wire transfer, Cheque |
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High Street Networking
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$100 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, WebMoney |
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HY Markets |
$50 |
0.02 |
|
Wire transfer, Credit and Debit cards, PayPal,
Cash U |
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IBFX - Interbank
FX |
$1 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, Check, Credit card, money order,
certified check, or personal check |
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IFC Markets |
$1 |
0.001 |
0.02 lots. Limits are off for deposits from $200 |
Wire transfer, Credit card, Web-Money, Liberty
Reserve, CashU |
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iForex |
$100 |
0.02 |
|
Wire transfer, Credit card |
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IG Markets |
$1 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, Cheque, Credit card, UK debit card,
Irish Laser card, Moneybookers |
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IHI - Investment
House International |
$500 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, Check |
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InstaForex |
$1 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, Credit card, WebMoney, RBKMoney,
Contact, Moneybookers, Liberty Reserve, Perfect Money |
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Interbank Group |
$250 |
|
|
Wire transfer |
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InvestTechFX |
$100 |
0.01 |
10 lots |
Wire transfer, Credit and Debit cards, Paypal |
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LiteForex |
$1 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, WebMoney, e-bullion, CashU, Liberty
Reserve |
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Mandus Invest SA |
$500 |
|
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Forex broker |
Min deposit, ($) |
Min lot size, (lots) |
Max position size, (standard lots) |
Account funding methods |
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Marketiva |
$1 |
any amount |
|
Wire transfer, WebMoney, Liberty Reserve, e-Dinar |
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Masterforex |
$1 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, WebMoney, Liberty Reserve, AlterGold |
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MB Trading |
$400 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, Check |
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MBCFX |
$200 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, Check |
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MF Global FX |
$300 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, Check |
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MGForex - MG Financial |
$500 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, Check , Credit or Debit card, PayPal
|
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MoneyForex Financial |
$250 |
0.1 |
200 lots |
Wire transfer, Credit card, e-bullion |
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Neuimex |
€250 |
|
|
Wire transfer, WebMoney, e-gold |
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OANDA |
$1 |
any amount |
100 lots |
Wire transfer - international. Check and Paypal
for US clients only. |
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Poltek FX |
$5 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, Credit card, Liberty Reserve |
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PFG FX - Pro Finance
Group |
$200 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, Credit card |
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Prime4x |
$100 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, Liberty Reserve, Moneybookers, money
moves |
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Proedge FX |
$250 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, Check, Online check, Credit and
Debit card, PayPal |
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Questrade |
$250 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, Check |
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Real Trade Group |
$20 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, WebMoney VISA, MasterCard |
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Retail FX |
$50 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, Credit card, PayPal, Neteller, Moneybookers,
Western Union, MoneyGram |
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SmartTradeFX |
$50 |
0.005 |
|
Wire transfer, Credit card, PayPal, Neteller |
|
Swiss International |
$500 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, Credit card, PayPal |
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Tadawul FX |
$500 |
|
|
Wire transfer, credit card, Paypal |
|
The Collective
FX |
$100 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer |
|
The Traders Guide |
$250 |
0.01 |
- |
Wire transfer, Check, Credit Card |
|
Windsor Brokers |
$25 |
0.01 |
|
Wire transfer, Credit card |
|
XForex |
$100 |
0.025 |
|
Wire transfer, Credit card, Western Union |
|
Uni-FX |
$1 |
|
|
Wire transfer, Webmoney, Liberty Reserve, AlertPay,
Perfect Money, cashU, c-gold, e-bullion |
|
UWC - United World
Capital |
$25 |
0.01 |
1 lot |
Wire transfer, Credit card, Debit card, Moneybookers,
AlertPay, Neteller |
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1pipfix |
$100 |
0.01 |
10 lots |
Wire transfer, Credit card, Moneybookers, Paypal |
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Exto Capital |
$1000 |
0.1 |
|
Wire transfer, Credit card, Paypal, Webmoney, Moneybookers |
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IKON Global - Royal
Division |
$1000 |
0.1 |
10 lots |
Wire transfer, Check, Credit card, Paypal, BPS |
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NordMarkets |
$1000 |
0.01 |
|
|
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PFGBEST |
$1000 |
0.1 |
no limit |
Wire transfer, Check |
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PronetFX |
$1000 |
0.1 |
no limit |
Wire transfer |
Do you know another Forex broker that offers
mini/micro accounts? Please suggest by adding a comment below.
Benefits of trading mini accounts and mini lots in Forex
It is often very convenient for beginner traders to start off with mini Forex accounts. By
investing little money and trading mini lot sizes Forex traders are able to put at test own knowledge and trading skills without
undertaking serious financial risks.
Mini accounts are also a good way to test Forex broker as well: How good is the trading platform?
Order execution and services overall? Only live trading can provide the answers.
By starting with mini lot sizes, traders learn to control risks and money flow more effectively
and without unnecessary stress, which is always present when trading standard size lots. Coping with risks and emotions also
need practice, mini and micro accounts and mini lots allow this practice to be effective.
Forex brokers who offer mini accounts, and, more importantly, mini lots provide more freedom
and flexibility to their clients allowing them to have even more control over own investments and risks. What is better
than 0.1 lot, known as mini-lot? :) An even smaller lot! Some Forex brokers allow to trade with as little as 0.01 lot (micro
lots), and some don't have any limitations for lot sizes at all!
Why some brokers are highlighted in green?
Forex brokers who offer a micro-lot trading option are highlighted in green. 1 micro lot =
0.01 lot = 1000 units. For traders who look to open an account under $1000 dollars, it is highly recommended to start trading
with micro lots (0.01 lot) or less.
Next figures should explain the math behind risks when trading with different lot sizes on
mini accounts: 1st Account balance $250, min lot size 0.1 lot (each pip costs on average $1). 2nd Account balance $250,
min lot size 0.01 lot (each pip costs on average $0.10).
Typical trading situation: 2 consecutive losses of just 10 pips each + 4 pips spread (2 pips
for each trade) = 24 pips loss.
1st account, where the cost of each pip was $1 would lose $24, which is 1/10 of the account
being lost in no time and with just 10 pips move against a trader! (10 pips in Forex is nothing! With intra-day trading
strategies Forex traders lose on average from 15 to 25 pips per move!)
2nd account, where the cost of each pip was $0.1 has lost just $2.4, which is not going to
affect the balance much.
Remember about the risks, chose a broker not just by a suitable minimum account size, but
also by a lot size, depending on how much you're going to invest.
New! Now you can trade even on US Cents accounts!
Micro-cents trading is offered by:
Alma Forex Forex4you FX|Clearing EFX - England Foreign
exchange E-Global Trade
& Finance Group
On such micro accounts all calculations and trading is done in US Cents.
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